OK OK FORGET ALL THAT !!!
Here's a fresh start.
This has been neither simple or easy.
I think I was asked to modify Reg 7.12 to allow a grade player call up replacement. On reflection that was not a good approach.
Regs
7.12 and 7.13 are dense and hard to follow rules that hardly ever get
used. They are not simple and never have been. They are contradictory
and have numerous exception clauses which are difficult
to understand or explain. In short they are headaches and I hate
them... Luckily they are usually ignored.
Why don't we just go around this problem with
A NEW REGULATION ?
So scrub all that and start over.... Luckily the new structure makes it relatively easy to copy out and modify.
Note this Regulations has a structure of
- WHAT IS ALLOWED
- QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE REPLACEMENT PLAYER
- PROCEDURE
- ALLOWANCES
- CAUTION
The new 7.14 (Replacements for Serious Injury) and the revised 7.12 (Replacements for Rep Commitments) both follow this.
Perhaps a good question to consider here is how to make this
SHORTER?
Please let me know if this is better (or worse.)
ABM Mon 1-Jul 3.25p
p.s. 7.13 (Replacements for injuries in Rep matches) has been wiped at the 15-Jul AGM
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PROPOSED NEW REGULATION (Notice of Motion 2019-24?)
(red stuff in brackets is my explanations)
7.16 REPLACEMENT PLAYERS RESULTING FROM PROMOTION TO PREMIER CRICKET
(7.11
is 3 replacements, 7.12 allows replacements for rep duty call up, 7.13
is replacement for rep players who get injured, 7.14 is proposed for
serious injury replacement, 7.15 is
the Sunday super sub reg)
7.16.1 This regulation applies in addition to and not in substitution for Regulations 7.11, 7.12, 7.13, and 7.14
(Numbers may change to reflect result of other proposals.)
7.16.2
If a player named on the team list becomes unavailable during the match
because of an unexpected Premier Cricket duty that player may be
replaced subject to the following regulations.
(This is meant to be a clear statement of what is allowed and under what circumstance.)
QUALIFICATION CONDITIONS FOR REPLACEMENT PLAYER
(this is the rules for finding a replacement)
7.16.3 The Replacement Player must be:
7.16.3.1 Named in the Team List.
(Adding
a name to the replacement player column in is technically a breach of
Regulation 7.7 but I assume we will allow it for this...)
7.16.3.2 Subject to the conditions in 7.11.5, 7.11.6, 7.11.7
(The usual: has to continue the replaced guy's innings/over, can't bat if he's already out etc etc)
7.16.3.3 Graded no higher than one grade higher within their club without Management Committee permission. See Regulation 4.6.2.
(This condition is copied from 7.12. It could be
simpler or even scrapped since most of the time this regulation will apply for players in a Subbies A team where there is no 'higher grade'.)
7.16.3.4 Nominated as a substitute fielder only if they do not meet any of these criteria. See Law 24 (2017 Code)
(This emphasizes the replacement vs substitute issue which other 7 regs also mention.)
PROCEDURE FOR PREMIER CRICKET DUTY REPLACEMENT
7.16.4
Upon receipt of a request from a Premier Cricket Club for transfer of a
promoted player, the Replacement Player's Club Secretary will make a
written request detailing the circumstances
of the Premier Cricket duties including the Replaced player's name(s)
and the Replacement player's name(s). Note that a verbal request is not
sufficient.
(Wordy
but what we're basically saying is "if the call up comes then the
Subbies club makes a written request (NOT verbal)". No questions, no
conditions to meet, if the Premier Club
says so then it's up to the Subbies club secretary to do the work....
This is not a free for all because of the conditions in 7.16.16.2 and
7.16.16.3 )
7.16.5
The Replacement Player's Club Secretary will forward the written request
to the Association Secretary and the opposing team Secretary no later
than 1 HOUR before the start of play on the
second day of the match.
(The
deadline for this is specified very close to start of play. Bruce has
said this is practical. (Tell me if I'm wrong!!) This compares to
deadlines of 9am Friday before in similar
Premier Cricket regulations.)
7.16.6
The Replacement Player's Team Captain will notify the umpire(s) and
opposing captain of the names of replacement player(s) before the start
of play on the subsequent day of the match.
(Probably should tell the scorers too but let's assume they will... maybe both copies of the team list should be altered too?)
7.16.7
If any selected for Replacement Player becomes injured and is unable to
play on a subsequent day of play, a different player may be nominated as
a replacement subject to the deadline in
Regulation 7.16.5.
(This
is meant to allow for last minute changes of substitute. If the call up
thing is sorted out on a Wednesday and then the replacement guy drops
out... Subbies teams can still do
something about it.)
(This is here to line up with other replacement regulations. I'm just being nerdy here, change it how you want...)
7.16.14 Consequential vacancies in lower grade teams must be filled in accordance with Regulation 7.16.3 and 7.16.4.
(This allows the procedure to be repeated in other grades... that is Subbies B and C)
7.16.15
Regarding eligibility for finals, any replaced or replacement player
will be counted as appearing in the whole match in the grade in which
the player commenced the match.
(So both the replaced player and the Replacement score one appearance each toward finals qualification.)
7.16.16 For the purposes of this regulation, Premier Cricket duties will mean :
7.16.16.2 Premier Cricket duties where the player is a member of a club with other teams in Premier Cricket
7.16.16.3
Premier Cricket duties where the player is a member of a Premier
Cricket club playing with a club with a written player exchange
agreement with a club in Premier Cricket.
(This
becomes a limitation to allow this ONLY for clubs who have other teams
in Premier Cricket... (eg. Valleys, Western Subs, Wynnum) or clubs with
player exchange agreements (eg.
Stafford and Norths, Indooroopilly and Uni, Taringa and Wests). I am
hopeful this will encourage some other Subbies clubs to seek player
exchange agreements... Bracken Ridge and Sandgate, Souths Juniors and
Souths, Wellington Point and Redlands etc)
7.16.17
If any replacement player plays in a match in contravention of
Regulation 7.16 the Management Committee may impose on that player's
Club a penalty in accordance with Regulation 24.4 and
24.5.
(This
is a cut and paste of a clause added to several other regs this year
(e.g. Reg 3 and Reg 5) which amounts if you break this rule, then we
gonna go ya...)
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The aim of this new clause is to allow a replacement player for any player who might be called to a Premier Cricket (or Grade) match between weeks.
Surprisingly the provisions of Regulation 7.12 do not already allow replacements for players called to Premier Cricket Matches.
7.12.16.2 and 7.12.16.3 are added to allow both situations where this is possible: for clubs with both Premier and Subbies teams and for Subbies clubs with player exchange agreements with Premier clubs.
This is considered likely to be a very unusual situation. No known calls for this have occurred recently.
But in the interests of fostering greater co-operation with Premier Cricket it is not considered a significant concession to allow it.
Both Reg 7.12 and 7.13 have been rewritten so that
The Regulations now has a structure of
WHAT IS ALLOWED QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE REPLACEMENT PLAYER PROCEDURE ALLOWANCES CAUTION
This is similar to the new Reg 7.14 Replacements for Serious injury
Some clauses have been copied between each Regulation.
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OLD REGULATION
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PROPOSED NEW WORDING
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REPLACEMENT PLAYERS RESULTING FROM REPRESENTATIVE COMMITMENTS
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7.12 REPLACEMENT
PLAYERS RESULTING FROM REPRESENTATIVE DUTIES
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From new 7.14
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7.12.1 This
regulation applies in addition to
and not in
substitution for Regulations 7.11,
7.13, and 7.14
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7.12 If a player named on the team list becomes unavailable during the
match because of a representative cricket duty, that player may be replaced.
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7.12.2 If a player named on the team list becomes
unavailable during the match because of an unexpected representative cricket duty that
player may be replaced subject to the following regulations.
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QUALIFICATION
CONDITIONS FOR
REPLACEMENT
PLAYER
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7.12.1 The replacement player must be:
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7.12.3 The Replacement Player must be:
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7.12.1.2 Named in the Team List (except in a case of 7.12.3 below).
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7.12.3.1 Named in the Team List (except in a case of 7.12.6 below).
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7.12.1.3 Subject to the conditions in 7.11.5, 7.11.6, 7.11.7
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7.12.3.2 Subject to the conditions in 7.11.5, 7.11.6, 7.11.7
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7.12.1.1 Graded no higher than one grade higher within their club.
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7.12.3.3 Graded no higher than one grade
higher within their club without Management
Committee
permission. See Regulation 4.6.2.
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From new 7.14
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7.12.3.4
Nominated as a substitute fielder only if they do not
meet any of these criteria. See Law 24 (2017
Code)
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7.12.2 Should a representative match be scheduled for the second day
of a club match and no representative team has been announced, a team that
includes players who may be displaced as a result of that representative
match, will, immediately prior to the commencement of the club match,
nominate a replacement player or players in the likelihood the team will be
affected by the displacements of players due to representative commitments.
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deleted
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PROCEDURE FOR
REPRESENTATIVE DUTY REPLACEMENT
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Newly added
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7.12.4 The
Replacement Player's Club
Secretary will
make a written request detailing the
circumstances of the representative duties. Note
that a verbal request is not sufficient.
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From 7.13
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7.12.5 The
Replacement Player's Club
Secretary will
notify the Association Secretary and the
opposing team Secretary of the Representative
player's name(s) and the Replacement
player's name(s) no later than 1 HOUR before the
start of play on the second day of the
match.
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7.12.3 Where a replaced player is injured and is unable to play on a
subsequent day of play, a nominated replacement may continue to play instead
subject to that club notifying the President of the Association and the
Secretary or Captain of the opposing club prior to 12.00 noon on the Friday
prior to the relevant day’s play.
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7.12.6 If
any selected for Replacement Player
becomes injured and is unable to play on a
subsequent day of play, a different player may
be nominated as a replacement subject to the
deadline in
Regulation 7.12.5.
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From 7.13
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7.12.7 The Replacement Player's Team Captain
will notify the umpire(s) and opposing captain of the names of replacement player(s) before the start of play on the subsequent day of the match.
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7.12.4 It will not be necessary to comply with Regulation 4 for
approval to downgrade a player in circumstances to which this Regulation
applies save that any player may only be downgraded by one grade within that
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Deleted. See 7.12.3.3
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7.12.8 to
7.12.14 Nil
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ALLOWANCES
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7.12.5 Regarding eligibility for finals, any replaced or replacement
player will be counted as appearing in the whole match in the grade in which
the player commenced the match.
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7.12.15 Regarding eligibility for finals, any
replaced or replacement player will be counted as appearing in the whole match in the grade in which the player commenced the match.
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7.12.6 For the purposes of this regulation, “representative duties”
will mean
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7.12.16 For the purposes of this regulation,
“representative duties” will mean :
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state duties (all ages) in either the first or second eleven or duties
higher than state duties.
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7.12.16.1 State duties (all ages) in either the
first or second eleven or duties higher than
state duties.
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Newly added
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7.12.16.2
Premier Cricket duties where the
player is a
member of a club with other teams in Premier
Cricket
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Newly added
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7.12.16.3 Premier Cricket duties where the
player is a member of a club with a written
player exchange agreement with a club in
Premier Cricket.
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REPLACEMENTS CAUTION
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From 7.14
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7.12.17 If any replacement player plays in a
match in contravention of Regulation 7.12 the Management Committee may impose
on that player's Club a penalty in accordance with Regulation 24.4 and 24.5.
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REPLACEMENT OF
PLAYERS RESULTING FROM INJURIES IN REPRESENTATIVE MATCHES
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7.13 REPLACEMENT OF PLAYERS RESULTING FROM
INJURIES IN REPRESENTATIVE MATCHES
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From new 7.14
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7.13.1
This regulation applies in addition to and not in substitution for
Regulations 7.11, 7.12, and 7.14.
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7.13 If a player named on the team list becomes
unavailable during the match because of injuries sustained in a
representative match, that player may be replaced.
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7.13.2 If a player named on the team list becomes unavailable
during the match because of injuries
sustained in a representative match that player may be replaced subject to the
following regulations.
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QUALIFICATION
CONDITIONS FOR REPLACEMENT PLAYER
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7.13.1 The replacement player must be:
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7.13.3 The
replacement player must be:
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From 7.12
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7.13.3.1 Named
in the Team List
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7.13.1.2 Subject to the conditions in 7.11.5, 7.11.6,
7.11.7
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7.13.3.2 Subject
to the conditions in 7.11.5, 7.11.6, 7.11.7
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7.13.1.1 Graded the same grade or lower grade –
however Regulation 4 applies for approval to downgrade a player in
circumstances to which this regulation applies.
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7.13.3.3 Graded
the same or lower grade. See Regulation 4.6.2.
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7.13.2 The replacement player may be selected as a
replacement irrespective of whether that player will participate in two
grades in the same round.
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7.13.3.3.1 The
replacement player may be selected as a replacement irrespective of whether
that player will participate in two grades in the same round.
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From new 7.14
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7.13.3.4
Nominated as a substitute fielder only if they do not meet any of these
criteria. See Law 24 (2017 Code)
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PROCEDURE
FOR REPLACEMENT OF INJURED REPRESENTATIVE PLAYERS
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7.13.8
to 7.13.14 Nil
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Newly suggested
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7.13.4
The Replacement Player's Club Secretary will make a written request detailing
the circumstances of the representative player's injury. Note that a verbal
request is not sufficient.
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7.13.3 The Secretary of the Association must be
advised of the application of this Regulation with full details before the
start of play on the subsequent day of the match.
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7.13.5
The Replacement Player's Club Secretary will notify the Association Secretary
and the opposing team Secretary of the Representative player's name(s) and
the Replacement player's name(s) no later than 1 HOUR before the start of
play on the second day of the match.
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From 7.12
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7.13.6
If any player selected for Replacement becomes injured and so is unable to
play on a subsequent day of play, a different player may be nominated as a
replacement subject to the deadline in Regulation 7.13.5.
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7.13.4 Captains must notify the umpire(s) and opposing
captain of the names of replacement player/s before the start of play on the
subsequent day of the match.
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7.13.7
The Replacement Player's Team Captain will notify the umpire(s) and opposing
captain of the names of replacement player(s) before the start of play on the
subsequent day of the match.
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ALLOWANCES
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7.13.5 Regarding eligibility for finals, any replaced
or replacement player will be counted as appearing in the whole match in the
grade in which that player commenced the match.
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7.13.15 Regarding
eligibility for finals, any replaced or replacement player will be counted as
appearing in the whole match in the grade in which that player commenced the
match.
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7.13.6 For the purposes of this Regulation
“representative duties” will mean state duties (all ages) in either the first
or second eleven or duties higher than state duties or in matches selected as
representative of this Association.
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7.13.16 For the
purposes of this regulation, “representative duties” will mean -
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7.13.16.1
State duties (all ages) in either the first
or second eleven or duties higher than state duties or in matches selected as
representative of this Association.
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REPLACEMENTS
CAUTION
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From
7.14
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7.13.17
If any replacement player plays in a match in contravention of Regulation
7.13 the Management Committee may impose on that player's Club a penalty in
accordance with Regulation 24.4 and 24.5.
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ABM, 21-Jun-2019
Revised 29-Jun-2019
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